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		<title>By: John Sealey</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sealey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John, I&#039;ve been getting your emails for some time now... and I got this one and decided to read it straightaway for some reason. I&#039;m glad I did.

Copywriters know that they should include come kind of proof in their copy, but a lot don&#039;t.

This was refreshing and I liked how you presented the ideas of sticking proof in sales copy. Nice :o)

I&#039;m looking forward to reading part 2... You&#039;re right on with your words of wisdom and I can&#039;t wait to read what you have to say about the advanced techniques. 

Until then...

John
The &#039;Courageous&#039; Marketeer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, I&#8217;ve been getting your emails for some time now&#8230; and I got this one and decided to read it straightaway for some reason. I&#8217;m glad I did.</p>
<p>Copywriters know that they should include come kind of proof in their copy, but a lot don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>This was refreshing and I liked how you presented the ideas of sticking proof in sales copy. Nice <img src='http://www.JohnRitz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to reading part 2&#8230; You&#8217;re right on with your words of wisdom and I can&#8217;t wait to read what you have to say about the advanced techniques. </p>
<p>Until then&#8230;</p>
<p>John<br />
The &#8216;Courageous&#8217; Marketeer</p>
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		<title>By: John Ritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Randy. Yeah, I agree this is evergreen stuff. And when clients want me to boost their conversions, I almost always beef up their proof using these methods and a few more!

On that particular squeeze page, 96+% of my prospects know who Michel Fortin is and how great a guy he is (and not too shabby at copy, I hear, too ;). So I&#039;d be missing an opportunity if I didn&#039;t include some kind words he said about me that&#039;s RELEVANT to the offer--key word there.

Cheers,

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Randy. Yeah, I agree this is evergreen stuff. And when clients want me to boost their conversions, I almost always beef up their proof using these methods and a few more!</p>
<p>On that particular squeeze page, 96+% of my prospects know who Michel Fortin is and how great a guy he is (and not too shabby at copy, I hear, too <img src='http://www.JohnRitz.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . So I&#8217;d be missing an opportunity if I didn&#8217;t include some kind words he said about me that&#8217;s RELEVANT to the offer&#8211;key word there.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Kemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:
   This is great stuff regarding the proof.  I see in the clickable squeeze page you have Michael Fortin (a great copywriter and legend).  I llook forwad to future posts regarding other elements of copywriting (I.E. - offer).
Randy
.-= Randy Kemp´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://randylewiskemp.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/it%E2%80%99s-marketing-opposite-day/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It’s Marketing Opposite Day&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:<br />
   This is great stuff regarding the proof.  I see in the clickable squeeze page you have Michael Fortin (a great copywriter and legend).  I llook forwad to future posts regarding other elements of copywriting (I.E. &#8211; offer).<br />
Randy<br />
.-= Randy Kemp´s last blog ..<a href="http://randylewiskemp.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/it%E2%80%99s-marketing-opposite-day/" rel="nofollow">It’s Marketing Opposite Day</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ritskowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ritskowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, Virgil, you&#039;re in! You&#039;re the last one, though.

Many thanks to everyone who participated and had fun with &quot;fruit&quot;.

And good luck to those who&#039;ve stumbled across this site and tried to figure out what the heck is going on!

We&#039;ll do this again real soon.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Virgil, you&#8217;re in! You&#8217;re the last one, though.</p>
<p>Many thanks to everyone who participated and had fun with &#8220;fruit&#8221;.</p>
<p>And good luck to those who&#8217;ve stumbled across this site and tried to figure out what the heck is going on!</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll do this again real soon.</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Virgil Stanphill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virgil Stanphill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 05:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK John,

Today is my FIRST DAY as a new AWAI member and I came upon your post.

I thought maybe, just maybe, you might be in one of those &quot;funny moods&quot; you mentioned - and I might be able to &quot;sneak in&quot; our your generous offer to those lucky 10.

You&#039;re familiar with the &quot;bakers dozen&quot;, aren&#039;t you? I&#039;d be shocked if you weren&#039;t...

What do you think?  Will my effort bear any fruit?

By the way, I love creative writing so I&#039;m hoping my education in copywriting will keep bearing fruit for many years to come.

Best wishes for your continued success.

Virgil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK John,</p>
<p>Today is my FIRST DAY as a new AWAI member and I came upon your post.</p>
<p>I thought maybe, just maybe, you might be in one of those &#8220;funny moods&#8221; you mentioned &#8211; and I might be able to &#8220;sneak in&#8221; our your generous offer to those lucky 10.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re familiar with the &#8220;bakers dozen&#8221;, aren&#8217;t you? I&#8217;d be shocked if you weren&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>What do you think?  Will my effort bear any fruit?</p>
<p>By the way, I love creative writing so I&#8217;m hoping my education in copywriting will keep bearing fruit for many years to come.</p>
<p>Best wishes for your continued success.</p>
<p>Virgil</p>
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		<title>By: valentina</title>
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		<dc:creator>valentina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great stuff ... the image of the lawyer lunging across the table had me laughing (anything that has to do with lawyers has that effect on me).... but what you are saying is that we should look at our copy as being a basket laden with fruit, and not just a basket of apples, or oranges, but a variety of FRUIT.  Got It!

best................valentina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great stuff &#8230; the image of the lawyer lunging across the table had me laughing (anything that has to do with lawyers has that effect on me)&#8230;. but what you are saying is that we should look at our copy as being a basket laden with fruit, and not just a basket of apples, or oranges, but a variety of FRUIT.  Got It!</p>
<p>best&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.valentina</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John -

An excellant article. Great &quot;ad&quot;-vice! I incorporated much of it in writing a spot for a local produce market that claims to have the finest FRUIT in town. Thanks to your suggestions, I was able to dig down for the real pulp and write some juicy copy. (nyuk, nyuk - does the offer still stand?)

Cheers, Champ!

- Al Henderson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John -</p>
<p>An excellant article. Great &#8220;ad&#8221;-vice! I incorporated much of it in writing a spot for a local produce market that claims to have the finest FRUIT in town. Thanks to your suggestions, I was able to dig down for the real pulp and write some juicy copy. (nyuk, nyuk &#8211; does the offer still stand?)</p>
<p>Cheers, Champ!</p>
<p>- Al Henderson</p>
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		<title>By: Trease</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trease</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 04:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,
Do you think James could have been the lawyer in your example? I don&#039;t know if he&#039;d ever lunge like that at anyone. But it&#039;s true, you need boatloads, or should I say fruit out the ying yang load of proof. If you&#039;re lacking on proof it will show and your credibility will go out the window. Is okay for a travel writer like me to get in on the &quot;fruit&quot; deal? There&#039;s a lot about copywriting that can apply to my genre of travel writing, especially the fruit portion.

The attribution of flaws resonates with me. That makes sense and does make the product seem more credible and less hypey. 

And you really need to write the way your customers talk to get better results. If you speak my language I&#039;m more likely to buy from you than from someone who doesn&#039;t talk my talk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
Do you think James could have been the lawyer in your example? I don&#8217;t know if he&#8217;d ever lunge like that at anyone. But it&#8217;s true, you need boatloads, or should I say fruit out the ying yang load of proof. If you&#8217;re lacking on proof it will show and your credibility will go out the window. Is okay for a travel writer like me to get in on the &#8220;fruit&#8221; deal? There&#8217;s a lot about copywriting that can apply to my genre of travel writing, especially the fruit portion.</p>
<p>The attribution of flaws resonates with me. That makes sense and does make the product seem more credible and less hypey. </p>
<p>And you really need to write the way your customers talk to get better results. If you speak my language I&#8217;m more likely to buy from you than from someone who doesn&#8217;t talk my talk.</p>
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		<title>By: John Ritskowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Ritskowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 22:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love what I&#039;m hearing!

Geoff, you raise a good point. I&#039;m not a lawyer (and I don&#039;t even play one on TV!)

But I&#039;m obviously familiar with that story, and I even looked up the word &quot;preponderance&quot;.

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preÂ·ponÂ·derÂ·ance (prÄ­-pÅn&#039;dÉ™r-É™ns)  also preÂ·ponÂ·derÂ·anÂ·cy (-É™n-sÄ“)
n.
Superiority in weight, force, importance, or influence.
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But of course it could mean something different in lawyer-speak. I only meant that your proof should be overwhelming. Lack of proof should NEVER be a reason they don&#039;t buy.

It should be that it&#039;s not the right offer for them at the right time. Or something else you don&#039;t necessarily have control over.

Bottom line is that anything you DO have control over, you should take the time to make sure you do your homework, especially when it comes to credibility and believability of your claims.

Cheers,

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love what I&#8217;m hearing!</p>
<p>Geoff, you raise a good point. I&#8217;m not a lawyer (and I don&#8217;t even play one on TV!)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m obviously familiar with that story, and I even looked up the word &#8220;preponderance&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
preÂ·ponÂ·derÂ·ance (prÄ­-pÅn&#8217;dÉ™r-É™ns)  also preÂ·ponÂ·derÂ·anÂ·cy (-É™n-sÄ“)<br />
n.<br />
Superiority in weight, force, importance, or influence.<br />
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<p>But of course it could mean something different in lawyer-speak. I only meant that your proof should be overwhelming. Lack of proof should NEVER be a reason they don&#8217;t buy.</p>
<p>It should be that it&#8217;s not the right offer for them at the right time. Or something else you don&#8217;t necessarily have control over.</p>
<p>Bottom line is that anything you DO have control over, you should take the time to make sure you do your homework, especially when it comes to credibility and believability of your claims.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always good to see the latest fruit of your fertile mind.  

As a lawyer, I have always found it amusing that the senior lawyer in that story demands &quot;a preponderance&quot; of proof.  Technically, a &quot;preponderance&quot; translates to &quot;barely enough&quot; -- it is the weakest standard of proof in litigation.  It is also phrased as &quot;more likely than not.&quot;  Lawyers will make closing arguments where they trot out a little set of metal scales and talk about the jury &quot;weighing the evidence&quot; on both sides, and noting that for the plaintiff to win, the balance has to tip only the very slightest amount in the plaintiff&#039;s favor.  A feather would be enough to tip it in that direction.

Stronger standards of proof in the law are such things as &quot;clear and convincing evidence,&quot; which is needed for some kinds of intentional torts, and &quot;beyond a reasonable doubt,&quot; the strictest standard, generally applied in criminal prosecutions.  

So, in the lawyer story, it would be more fruitful for the lawyer to have demanded &quot;clear and convincing&quot; evidence, because that standard is not just &quot;more likely than not&quot; but &quot;substantially more likely than not.&quot;

GLB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always good to see the latest fruit of your fertile mind.  </p>
<p>As a lawyer, I have always found it amusing that the senior lawyer in that story demands &#8220;a preponderance&#8221; of proof.  Technically, a &#8220;preponderance&#8221; translates to &#8220;barely enough&#8221; &#8212; it is the weakest standard of proof in litigation.  It is also phrased as &#8220;more likely than not.&#8221;  Lawyers will make closing arguments where they trot out a little set of metal scales and talk about the jury &#8220;weighing the evidence&#8221; on both sides, and noting that for the plaintiff to win, the balance has to tip only the very slightest amount in the plaintiff&#8217;s favor.  A feather would be enough to tip it in that direction.</p>
<p>Stronger standards of proof in the law are such things as &#8220;clear and convincing evidence,&#8221; which is needed for some kinds of intentional torts, and &#8220;beyond a reasonable doubt,&#8221; the strictest standard, generally applied in criminal prosecutions.  </p>
<p>So, in the lawyer story, it would be more fruitful for the lawyer to have demanded &#8220;clear and convincing&#8221; evidence, because that standard is not just &#8220;more likely than not&#8221; but &#8220;substantially more likely than not.&#8221;</p>
<p>GLB</p>
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